Until recently I was a facebook friend of someone named Jon King who runs a website called “Conscious Ape” and a weekly web radio show by the same name.
On Jon King’s facebook page he posted:
“"Finding Coca-Cola accused of murder is like finding out Santa Claus is a paedophile"
New book accuses Coca-Cola of murder, environmental destruction and contributing to child health problems...
The post linked to an interview with a fellow who confesses that he began to research the grievous human rights violations and sordid history of Coca-Cola after:
“I first heard about some of the allegations against Coke back in 2004 from activists at the Democratic National Convention.”
Frankly, I didn’t read the article, not until after I was removed from the illustrious company of Jon King’s facebook friends. I really only commented initially in jest, as I am myself a hapless Coca-Cola fiend. Even as I sit writing this, I am experiencing withdrawal symptoms as my Jones begins “coming down on me”!
The thread took an unceremoniously anti-semitic tone which after a while became impossible for me to ignore. I happen to be doing a great deal of research lately on Israel for an article, so I am positively bursting with books and info on this subject right now.
Here is the thread in it’s entirety without editing (Except the omission of last names excluding Jon and Myself) leading to my exile. It serves as an amazing illustration of a lack of tolerance for facts by leftists, analogous to the Bill O’Reilly, Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg kerfuffle on The View this week.
David Well, they also donate millions every year to Israel's ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians...and use private militias to take out union organizers in South America...
Chris I prefer Pepsi myself. Much more refreshing, and it still has that Pepsi flavour I remember from the 60s. However Coca Cola no longer has the zest it used to have and now tastes bland. I would not drink Coca Cola out of principal, because of the way that the company completely changed the image of Father Christmas in 1900, making way for the mass exploitation of children. In this respect, Father Christmas iS a Paedophile.
David Pepsi or Coke... Either way you lose your teeth... ! D
Chris Too late for me there David, My teeth were destroyed by Jusoda, mars bars and crisps, the crisps that had the little blue wax paper wraps of salt to chuck away. I prefered mine unsalted same with the sun valley peanuts. As for fizzy drinks, my choice today. I stick with Jamaica Ginger Beer. Very refreshing if a little on the sweet side.
Chris Half of Mexico City belongs to the Coca Cola Company. You can guess which half. They are disgusting.
Chris http://www.inminds.com/boycott-coca-cola.html
Jon King Much of the funding for Israel is funnelled through the business empire of Muzi Wertheim, Chairman of Coca Cola Israel...
Hassan Nurullah "Coke adds life!" "It's the real thing!" "Coke is it!" "Catch the wave!" Pepsi tastes like crap! I would marry Coca Cola if I could! And if they are funneling money to Israel, more’s the reason to buy more Coke!
Silviu Truth be told, even though I'm kinda of an Coca-Cola - please, do not understand that I'm some sort of 'Coke'... - addict, I tend to agree with the accusers: YES, the 'Coca-Cola' Co. is guilty not only of our addiction by putting that crap - Aspartame - into the mix, but also of sponsoring companies and events that have to do with the attroceous exploitation of animals! So, for these two reasons alone, it's a love - hate kind of relationship between myself, personally, and this "dream factory" of theirs.
(DP side bar: Uh, aspartame didn’t hit the market until 1974, it is an artificial sweetner with zero addictive properties.)
Silviu @ Hassan Narullah: Indeed, Sionists have their business with 'Coca-Cola', that's a fact... I don't like Sionism, even though some of my family's members have reasons to believe we are part (= quart) Jews. Yes... just as (non-)Arabs have their own immitations of this company's products. To name a few: 'Mecca-Cola' (c'mon!..), 'Arab-Cola', 'Qibla-Cola', and, last but not least,.. 'Zam-Zam Cola'! 'Zam-Zam'?! :-) And I think I remember a '7-up' immitation, as well, but I forgot its name. Anyway, 2% for freeing Palestine, right? Or should I say... for arming the *murderers* who bomb school-buses and schools altogether? :-) Me, a Sionist? Why so? Because I blow the wistle, as they say, on the (non-) Arab VENAL HATERED? I can do that very well with the Israeli one, as well. :-) Clear your head straight!
Silviu * (non-)Arab = not everyone must be Arab to be converted to Islam, be it Mahomedan or not.
Chris The State of Isreal has no right to be there in the first place. It is an anachronism in the modern world and should be the first to be reassembled. The fucking trouble it causes. A state that has so much power, yet trains its armed forces to pick off the children of the indiginous peoples on their way to school with snipers can go to hell. They represent Evil incarnate. Such utter self righteous Arrogence.
Chris Coca Cola or Coke as it used to be called in the 60's. (The old embossed Glass bottles used to have Coca Cola embossed into one side of the glass and Coke embossed into the other side, or printed on the tins)
Had a small amount of Cocaine as one of the secret ingredients. Same with Pepsi Cola. This was before the missuse of drugs act came out in 1971. Hence the adverts, "Things go better with Coke" and "Come Alive, your in the Pepsi Generation". Anyone who is in the manufacture of arms or uses peoples want of simple creature comforts to further the proliferation of arms, has quite obviously created a very special need for the existence of Satan in their lives. Hell being the end product of their endeavours.
Jon King Seems like whatever they put in Coke has had its desired effect on you, then, Hassan...
Hassan Nurullah Chris you seem to have no understanding of the history of Israel. There is no such thing as a Palestine or a Palestinian for that matter. Palestine is a complete fabrication brought to you by the Roman Emperor Hadrian.
Hadrian's relentless Jewish oppression sparked the second Jewish rebellion, The aftermath was close to 600,000 Jews dead, Some 50 Towns and almost a 1000 villages razed. Hadrian attempted to wipe the entire Jewish religion and culture from the face of the earth.
After putting down the rebellion, Hadrian renamed Israel Palestine, after the Philistines the Jews ancient and extinct enemy.
Walid Shoebat, former PLO terrorist puts it best:
“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.
The original inhabitants of Israel were the Canaanites. In fact, the original name of Israel was "The Land of Canaan". After the Exodus and the Jewish settlement in Canaan, there were wars fought between the Jews and Canaanites. The Canaanites through war and inter-marriage became absorbed into Israel. So the only people who can claim to have Canaanite blood in reality are Israelis.
The one thing that the modern day Palestinian and the Philistines they were named after have in common, is that they are invaders. Philistine, is not an ethnic nomenclature but rather an adjective applied to them, which means invaders or penetrators.
“The Philistines were a confederation of non-Semitic peoples coming from Crete, the Aegean Islands and Asia Minor, also known as the "Sea Peoples". The main tribes were Tzekelesh, Shardana, Akhaiusha, Danauna, Tzakara, Masa or Meshwesh, Lukki, Dardana, Tursha, Keshesh or Karkisha, Labu and Irven.
The original homeland of the group that ruled the Philistine federation, namely the "Pelesati", was the island of Crete. When the Minoic civilization collapsed, also the Minoic culture disappeared from Crete, as invaders from Greece took control of the island. These ancient Cretans arrived in Southern Canaan and were known as "Pelestim and Keretim" by Hebrews and Canaanites (that became allied to fight the invaders).
Their first settlement seems to have been Gaza, whose original name was "Minoah", a clear reference to the fallen Minoic kingdom. They also invaded Egypt and were defeated by Pharaoh Ramses III in the 12th century BC. The Philistines were organized in city-states, the most important, Pentapolis: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, and their territory was close to the Mediterranean coast, a little longer and broader than the present-day "Gaza Strip" - never all of Judah, they never reached Hebron, Jerusalem or Jericho!
Those Sea Peoples that invaded Egypt were expelled towards other Mediterranean lands and did not evolve into any Arab people, but disappeared as distinguishable groups in Roman times. Those dwelling in Canaan were defeated by King David and reduced to insignificance, the best warriors among them were chosen as David's bodyguard. The remaining Philistines still dwelling in Gaza were subdued by Sargon II of Assyria and after that time, they disappeared definitively from history. They are no longer mentioned since the return of the Jewish exiles from Babylon.
Conclusion: there is not one single person in the world who may be able to prove Philistine lineage, yet, if Palestinians insist, they have to recognize themselves as invaders in Israel, and then they must ask Greece to return them back the Isle of Crete! The Philistines are extinct and claims to alleged links with them are utterly false as they are historically impossible to establish. In any case, claiming a Philistine heritage is silly because it cannot legitimate any land in which they were foreign occupants and not native dwellers.
Philistines were not Arabs, and the only feature in common between both peoples is that in Israel they should be regarded as invaders, Philistines from the sea and Arabs from the wilderness. They do not want Jerusalem because it is their city, which it is not and never has been, they simply want to take her from the Jews, to whom she has belonged for three thousand years. The Philistines wanted to take from the Israelites the Holy Ark of the Covenant, modern so-called Palestinians want to take from them the Holy City of the Covenant.
The Palestinians: No, they are not an ancient people. They were born in a single day, after a war that lasted six days in 1967. If they were true Canaanites, they would speak Hebrew and demand from Syria to give them back their occupied homeland in Lebanon, but they are not. If they were Philistines, they would claim back the Isle of Crete from Greece and would recognize that they have nothing to do with the Land of Israel.” – Myths, Hypotheses and Facts Concerning the Origin of Peoples
I don't know what god you serve or if you have a god at all Chris, but the God of the Holy Bible says this about Israel:
"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." Genesis 12:3
This is certainly true, as Christ Himself is the fulfillment of that promise.
As for the rest of your nonsense, there has not been Cocaine in Coca-Cola since 1903. Only spent coca leaves have been used in the formula for Coke for over 100 years.
Jon King Wow. That Coke really has played strange tricks on your mind, Hassan. The 'God of the Holy Bible'? Oh, dear...
Hassan Nurullah Whether you believe in God or not Jon has no relevance to the historicity of Jewish claims on Israel and the spurious nature of the Palestinian concept, or Chris' demonstrably poor scholarship and arguments on all points.
Jon King Goodbye, Hassan...
I was thus summarily dispatched from Jon King’s friends list.
Digital Publius

Jon King's loss, and he doesn't even know it.
ReplyDeleteLOL..! Hassan, an incredible disertation, to be sure! Now, being summarily removed like this was only more proof of the thin-skinned nature of the ranting left.
ReplyDeleteAside from that, you summarized volumes there, brother. Absolutely outstanding!
Joe Young
@ Reed RE News: VERY true..Jon King is a poor statistic, never to gain enough conciousness to understand what drives the left at their very core. Names like Saul Alinsky can't have any possible significance, even if Hillary herself would have his name tattooed on her forehead.
ReplyDeleteJ. Young
Hassan you're the Best!!!!!
ReplyDelete...and professing to be wise, they became fools...
ReplyDeleteQuite interesting. More evidence of how gullible the left is and when you challenge their gullibility, they pout and they are not your friend anymore. HA!
ReplyDeleteGreat points, Hassan! But - like the Bible says - we are Throwing our pearls before swine!
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is - Good Riddance! The Left will never have any sense and ever listen to logic - because the Left is so full of hatred. That is also why Jesus said that Hatred is like Murder. It is irrational in every way and those who succumb to it - are fools.
Jon King is one and he has suffered loss - yet he does not know it!
Btw - Facebook has a number of sites that have "I Hate Israel" for its theme. It is disgusting to see what they write there - but FB refuses to take them out - even if you report it as Offensive Speech!
I have reported them a number of times. And they ignored me. I finally just started Flagging people on those sites who Hate Israel and say vile things. Let them temporarily lose their accounts! GOOD Riddance! ~
That is amazing Anita, I had no idea such pages existed! This world is going bananas!
ReplyDeleteI read that Pepsi promotes same sex marriages. My point in bringing that up is you can probably find a skelton or something bad (true or not) with any company (especially the larger ones)
ReplyDeleteNot such a loss Hassan! I love it when you take it to them and they run! You da Man!
ReplyDeleteHassan, well done. They can deny facts, truth, history all they want, but the sun still rises each morning, sets each evening, and denial is forever their problem. The saying that those who deny history are doomed to repeat it is only half of the effect they suffer. They will also die in its shadow. Sad.
ReplyDeleteSad indeed!
ReplyDeleteSome people can't handle the truth or the facts when they are presented with them...much less the fact that you were going against the grain of his argument, that was educating his little minions...knowledge is power, lack of knowledge leads to serfdom...!!!
ReplyDeleteWow Hassan. You have broken the cardinal rule again. You have muddied the water with the truth. Really enjoyed the information and I learned a few things. The truth is really not important to people like Jon King they simply want to scream their lies long enough and loud enough that people begin to believe them. You're no friend of theirs when you bring out the facts. Keep up the great work MY FRIEND.
ReplyDeleteJon King went running tail between his legs when faced with the objective truth. You invaded his subjective world with facts. Run away! Great job Hassan. Its too bad he defriend you. I guess he was not ready for the Truth.
ReplyDeleteIt's funny how Jon King tried to shame you for expressing a religious perspective. That's a classic liberal tactic. First subtly insinuate you're some religious nut. Then when that doesn't work, delete. lol...
ReplyDeleteYes, Hassan - on Facebook there are a great number of hate pages against Israel. Some of them are called "Death to Israel" and the others are called "I Hate Israel." I was immensely shocked when I first saw the one "Death to Israel" and then I found the others. They are so full of hatred.
ReplyDeleteHere is a link to one group:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=835826384#!/search/?flt=1&q=i%20hate%20israel&o=65&tas=0.9880251177798351
Banishment is what you get for bringing historical accuracy rationality into an emotional rant. Lawyers are taught to argue the facts in the case when the facts are on their side. When the facts are on the other guys side, attack his character. You stand justified at the bar my friend.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Just how many friends did you really have in order for them to be lost? I would say none, so therefore nothing was lost. However you did gain back the time you would have wasted on those folks.
Hassan, you're always welcome on my friend's list, or in my home. You never need an invitation to drop in. You revel in the pursuit of truth. Jon has scales over his eyes and a seered conscience ... the truth just ain't in him!
ReplyDeleteAmazing Hassan, thanks for sharing this, I have come across that anti semantic Jon before, its no loss for you! Great come back to him!
ReplyDeleteThis quote from William Cullen Bryant is so ever true: “Truth, crushed to earth, shall rise again; Th' eternal years of God are hers;
ReplyDeleteBut Error, wounded, writhes in pain,
And dies among his worshippers.”
Keep up the good work Hassan; you have lost nothing (especially friends). Truth has "love" for it's companion, and lies have partnered with "hate". May the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, bless and keep you is my prayer.
Peace In Him,
PROJ.
Amen brother Proj.
ReplyDeleteHassan, I pray for you often, what your doing is important on many levels.
ReplyDeleteGreat job Hassan. You keep calm under fire and that is admirable.
ReplyDeleteFirst, I am reminded of a Chinese proverb: "Pure gold does not fear furnace." You Sir are like pure gold.
Second, the way liberals and their kind operate lately illustrates just how polarized we have become. It seems to me that the differences we have can not be attributed to race or religion as those on the liberal camp would have us believe but more towards political beliefs. It's come down to Conservative minded people vs Liberals. Some people can't see the truth while others either can see it, or at least seek it out with open minds.
Those with closed minds who refuse to see things for what they are, are cowards in my opinion. It takes courage to open that door and see things for what they are. To put aside traditions and biased opinions and beliefs. I for one have found that some things I grew up believing were completely wrong and while I didn't like admitting it, I had to choose to either live my life with blinders on or accept the truth. It is easy to spot those who fail to do so as they, unlike gold; fear the fires of the furnace.
Dan Duke
Very well said Dan!
ReplyDeleteHassan,
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting, amazing how the left cannot embrace truth.
Many blessing to you !
Rick
I am truly proud of you, Hassan. I wish more people would take the time to do the research on facts. It seems we are constantly assaulted with lies from the left and very few people do their homework to stand up to them. I will pass this info along and share this page so that more of my friends may arm themselves against the onslaught of ignorant arrogance that we who are standing for truth must endure. Keep up the Excellent work.
ReplyDeleteKris
Awesome Hassan! That expulsion from King's friend list is a badge of honor. Good job!
ReplyDelete@Hassan: Brilliantly researched and factual reply... And, regretfully you got what you got for trying to confuse an issue with facts.
ReplyDelete2 Peter 3 : 5, speaking to people's willful ignorance. The response you got was case in point :(
Isn't it amazing how there is a large cadre of people (both far left and far right) who will attack Christians or Jews (since they are "safe" targets) but then kiss the asses of those who will cut their heads off if they even post a cartoon about Mohammad.
ReplyDeleteGenesis 15:18-21 :)) love it Hassan! The truth sets us free and seems to imprison those that chose not to believe....
ReplyDeleteAmen, Hassan. You are all the better for it, too. Those ninnies are uneducated and sorely without God, or at least the God we know. They are nincompoops to say the least. I, being a Christian cannot call them any worse than that. Nonetheless, they are ignorant. Thanks for your very astute article. You have done your research. It really irritates me to hear people say the Jews should go back to where they belong. They are where they belong in Israel, where God's chosen people come from. Of course, we were grafted in and now are God's chosen people.
ReplyDeleteI loved that Hassan. I was just de-friended this morning by a vulgarly intolerant lefty after I slammed him with facts. Yeesh! so sensitive. I had fun though. Keep up your scholarly works, it's very refreshing to read the truth these days.
ReplyDeleteSmack them in the face with facts and they can't handle it! Mention God, your Lord, and they say "Goodbye." Hassan's dissertation was wonderful, the blend of history and story that I love to hear.
ReplyDeleteIf you are agnostic or athiest, or choose a religion of death (i.e. make one mistake and burn forever and/or return to the "nothingness"), then you have no logical reason to obey laws, care about your fellow man or behave in a civilized fas...hion. If there is no God and your existence is merely an accident of chemicals, then why live? Why care? I always consider those who truly have no ethical or moral foundation to be the ultimate dangers to my person, my family, my country and my species. Without faith there can be no ethics and no morals. Without ethics and morals there can be societal boundaries. Without societal boundaries, there can be no civilization. You will not find any civilization anywhere that hasn't been annihilated when it lost its ethics and morals. So beware of those who pretend they can separate church and state, since by definition that is the road to annihilation.
ReplyDeleteVery good Hassan. Most of the left do not want to hear the truth or they would have found it by now. Just reading the scriptures intensely you know there are no Palestinians.They are even disliked by the Arabs who simply use them as an irritant to Israel.Ismael and Esau has never forgiven Isaac and Israel (Jacob) and will not let go until they destroy Israel, however we KNOW they cannot and will not. Praying for the peace of Jerusalem.
ReplyDeleteA good article. However, I must admit that since I seldom drink a Coke or a Pepsi (I mostly drink lemonade or just water)I am not probably qualified to address some of the issues of what $$$ go to Israel from those evil companies. What I do know is that Israel has a right to exist and defend her nation. I am old enough to remember a lot of her history which has seemed to be either forgotten or conveniently misplaced. And that Hassan is one of your friends opinion.
ReplyDeleteGreat post, Hassan, I guess there is a reason Lenin called such people as Mr. King "useful idiots"
ReplyDeleteThat's the way they react when that "can't handle the Truth!" Way to go, Hassan! :)
ReplyDeleteThe truth? You want the truth? You can't handle the truth, Jon! It burns your fingers, doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteNice job as always, Hassan- he wasn't a friend, just another lost soul that had a glimpse at the truth...