There is a fellow who calls himself “Ramius” that pops up on my Digital Publius blog from time to time—this person can’t seem to figure out the proper way to post on my blog so the header on his posts always comes up “Anonymous” and then he signs it “Ramius” at the end of his usually flippant but otherwise vacuous comments. He left a question this morning that I have decided to answer and post in short blog form.
Anonymous August 16, 2012 2:37 AM
If the election is under God's sovereign hand as you say then why did the two candidates who claimed to have heard the voice of God telling them to run, dropped out? [sic]
What will you say when Obama wins his second term? That God heard your prayers and said NO! ?? Too funny!
-Ramius
What will you say when Obama wins his second term? That God heard your prayers and said NO! ?? Too funny!
-Ramius
My response:
Digital Publius August 16, 2012 6:40 AM
Digital Publius August 16, 2012 6:40 AM
God telling them to run is not the same as God telling them they would win! There is a purpose in giving America a choice too. Whom we reject shows the spiritual position of a nation just as much as whom we accept and elect. The God of the Holy Bible is always more interested in our spiritual condition than our temporal.
Obama has been God's punishment for this nation and I believe that if he wins, Romney will also be a punishment. It will be a punishment that we have earned. Regardless of who garners the most votes in November, the only winner this cycle is Satan.
President Obama was necessary to bring this nation to a point where we are no longer strong enough or relevant enough to effect world outcomes, especially as it pertains to Israel. (look up sequestration) It is only through a President like Obama that the Islamic nations could gain the strength and religious audacity growing ever stronger in the Mid-East to embolden the Islamic nations to attack Israel as foretold in the Holy Bible.
President Obama's inaction and in some cases, encouragement of the Islamic brotherhood and the like in places like Iran, Libya, Egypt, Syria... Has laid the groundwork. His obvious hostility towards Israel and the work he and the Democrats are doing to destroy this nations economy and erode our military, have put us in an unprecedented position.
America has always had the resources to absorb the tragedies besetting our nation whether they be man-made or natural in origin. President Obama, in his efforts to weaken and therefore equalize the American economy with the rest of the world, has placed us in a position where that may not be true in the near future.
America has always had the resources to absorb the tragedies besetting our nation whether they be man-made or natural in origin. President Obama, in his efforts to weaken and therefore equalize the American economy with the rest of the world, has placed us in a position where that may not be true in the near future.
We as a nation are very weak by every measure right now--but especially spiritually. We have rejected God with the choices of who will represent us in this Presidential election left and right and we will reap the whirlwind because of it.
To believe that electing a man like Mitt Romney, a man who has rejected the God of the Holy Bible will be the answer to Obama is foolish and again speaks directly to our lack of spiritual maturity today. Satan cannot and will not cast out Satan.
If you are a Christian who believes in the concept of false religion, (as is clearly taught in the Holy Bible) you have to know that the source of that falsehood is Satan. Regardless of how nice the face of the LDS church is, it is anti-Christ and therefore anyone who chooses that faith is an enemy of God and man.
If you object to Barack Obama on moral grounds, examples; abortion breaks the sixth commandment and his tacit support of special gay rights and marriage breaks number seven, how do you not reject Romney on the same grounds when he breaks the very first commandment of God? Do you really think he is the answer?
" Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." John Jay, Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.
To believe that electing a man like Mitt Romney, a man who has rejected the God of the Holy Bible will be the answer to Obama is foolish and again speaks directly to our lack of spiritual maturity today. Satan cannot and will not cast out Satan.
If you are a Christian who believes in the concept of false religion, (as is clearly taught in the Holy Bible) you have to know that the source of that falsehood is Satan. Regardless of how nice the face of the LDS church is, it is anti-Christ and therefore anyone who chooses that faith is an enemy of God and man.
If you object to Barack Obama on moral grounds, examples; abortion breaks the sixth commandment and his tacit support of special gay rights and marriage breaks number seven, how do you not reject Romney on the same grounds when he breaks the very first commandment of God? Do you really think he is the answer?
" Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." John Jay, Source: October 12, 1816. The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, Henry P. Johnston, ed., (New York: Burt Franklin, 1970), Vol. IV, p. 393.
"Whether our religion permits Christians to vote for infidel rulers is a question which merits more consideration than it seems yet to have generally received either from the clergy or the laity. It appears to me that what the prophet said to Jehoshaphat about his attachment to Ahab ["Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord?" 2 Chronicles 19:2] affords a salutary lesson." [ John Jay, The Correspondence and Public Papers of John Jay, 1794-1826, Henry P. Johnston, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1893), Vol. IV, p.365]
II Chronicles 19:
II Chronicles 19:
1 And Jehoshaphat the king of Judah returned to his house in peace to Jerusalem.
2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
Zechariah 11:
Zechariah 11:
1 Open thy doors, O Lebanon, that the fire may devour thy cedars.
2 Howl, fir tree; for the cedar is fallen; because the mighty are spoiled: howl, O ye oaks of Bashan; for the forest of the vintage is come down.
3 ¶There is a voice of the howling of the shepherds; for their glory is spoiled: a voice of the roaring of young lions; for the pride of Jordan is spoiled.
4 Thus saith the LORD my God; Feed the flock of the slaughter;
5 Whose possessors slay them, and hold themselves not guilty: and they that sell them say, Blessed be the LORD; for I am rich: and their own shepherds pity them not.
6 For I will no more pity the inhabitants of the land, saith the LORD: but, lo, I will deliver the men every one into his neighbour's hand, and into the hand of his king: and they shall smite the land, and out of their hand I will not deliver them.
7 And I will feed the flock of slaughter, even you, O poor of the flock. And I took unto me two staves; the one I called Beauty, and the other I called Bands; and I fed the flock.
8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.
9 Then said I, I will not feed you: that that dieth, let it die; and that that is to be cut off, let it be cut off; and let the rest eat every one the flesh of another.
10 ¶And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.
14 Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
15 ¶And the LORD said unto me, Take unto thee yet the instruments of a foolish shepherd.
16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land, which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.
17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.
Digital Publius
Digital Publius
